RECORDS & SUNDRY
Records similar to those of the army. The PRO in Britain has material for
most Irish counties
Customs & Excise.
People were posted away from areas where they had friends and relatives, and
family were also transferred. English Officers might have spent time in
Ireland and vice versa. Children would say they were born in one country or
the other and not think of themselves as being from that country.
Records for nominations for appointments began in 1816.
We all know about the RIC records. (Royal Irish Constabulary - founded in
1836). These are indexed alphabetically. Once you find the name in the
index, then the full record can be requested. Arranged by Service number
these records give age, height, religion, native county, that of the wife
(if any), trade, date of appointment, counties where served, date of
retirement or death
The Royal Navy:
Seamen were signed on for each voyage. The ships muster gives place of
birth so you can identify the Irish. Continuous engagement was introduced
in 1853. (I don't know if these have been indexed yet or not - Jane)
The records of the Post Office are held in a separate archive in the sorting
office building in central London. The 'Establishment Books' began in 1691
and the 'Nomination and Appointment Books' began in 1737. The service
expanded in the mid 1800's and so much more information on postpeople from
Ireland will be found from that time. The records include information on
appointment, retirement and pension. One other way to check out Postpeople
is through the various directories for Ireland. These will list the
Postmaster for any place which did have a post system, from there you can
then check out these records in the sorting office in London.
The Civil Service:
Records not held in the PRO but in the library of the Society of Genealogists in London. Young men were obliged to give evidence
statements of birth) so applications have birth or baptism certificates
attached. For many Irish applicants - this was not possible so there are
affidavits from relatives or the local Clergy and these were accepted.
The Trinity House Petitions - also held at the Society of Genealogists.
Merchant seamen or their widows applied for pensions. Place of birth was
given and names o dependant children. When it was a widow applying - she
gave the place and date of marriage and here also birth or baptism
certificates are attached as evidence. Records go from the late 1700's to
Lloyds Marine collection : Guildhall Library.
A continuous run of Lloyd's List exists from 1741 listing ships and their
movements: details include the shipbuilder, owner and master. Other classes
of record including subscription books (from 1774); casualty Returns (from
1850); Wreck registers (from 1855); captains registers (from 1869).
The British Newspaper
Many of these are also held in Ireland,
but these would be local papers - not specialised. How many of you are
subscribed to some newsletter, newspaper from an area where you don't live?
People had interests, if your ancestors were professionals then they may
have subscribed to any of these newspapers or magazines. You may find their
advertisements, bankrupticies, letters from them in any one relating to
some interest/hobby/profession that your ancestor had.
Trade Unions and Friendly Societies:
The Amalgamated Engineering Union was founded in 1851 - and had 400+ Irish
Members from Belfast, Drogheda, Cork, Dublin and Newry. Five years later it
had members from Dundalk, Kilkenny and Limerick
Check out : Ward-Perkins, S. Select Guide to Trade union Records in Dublin (with details
of Unions operating in Ireland to 1970). 1996 Bennett, J. & Tough, A. Trade union and related records (University of
Warwick) 1991 Records of British Business and Industry 1760-1914: Textiles and leather
(HMSO, 1990) Anon. Tith
Published here with
full permission of Jane